Hajduk

Character : Hajduk
Alts : None ...i'm astoundingly lazy
IC Hates : pointy ears, snake faces and anything taller than i am
IC Likes : killing pointy ears, sadly not allowed to kill the snakefaces cos they are on our side,
RL Hates : sheffield united, gardening, jimmy hill, 30th July 1966, and did I mention sheffield united
RL Loves : scotland, sheffield wednesday, holidaying in croatia, Leeds united being in league 1

Ah, come on - how can anyone hate Jimmy Hill? Or is it because of his pointy chin? Do you hate all things pointy?

The clue is in the date. Up here we all hate the pointy chinned little toepoke

Hmm, point taken.

For the sake of our continental friends who may be baffled by this - Hajduk is explaining that he is Anglophobic. Relations within the "United" Kingdom often seem strange to outsiders, but they are actually simple. The non-English elements are, indeed, united - by a common disdain for the English. The English return this with infuriating condescension.

For example, the date referred to is the day England won the World Cup - and any English success is hateful to their neighbours. The English reaction is a little more complex, but no less obnoxious. An unsuccessful Scottish sportsperson is referred to as Scottish; a successful one is claimed as British. Thus the non-English always support anyone playing against England, while the English will always support their neighbours' teams.

Unless they're Welsh, of course. Nobody likes the Welsh! Hehehehehehehehe!!!!!!

The date isnt hateful, I know id be damn proud if we had won it. Its just that when you watch a football match between say Russia and Greece, its a tad annoying to hear THAT game mentioned.

The philosophy is, be proud of who you are, just dont think it makes you better than anyone else, except Jimmy Hill of course

I once worked with a guy who used to say, "Nobody's better than me - and I'm no better than anyone else."

I liked that.

And I'm joking about the Welsh.


No, really.

I went to Scotland and got chatting to a 'local' about the ruined crofts. I was told it was the fault of the British that they were in ruins because they went up there in the middle ages and burnt/wrecked or whatever all their land............... And they never forgave us.

So the Anglophobia started well before the football......

And most people are better than me (well, at something or other, even if it's finding their way round). But otherwise I agree with Ritva - and it is lovely to be able to agree with that backstabbing, knife wielding, clothes loving, far from demure being for once. Not about the Welsh though. I don't know any. I thought there were only sheep in Wales.

WOOSH right over my head went all that!!!

good thing i'm not a football fan

*wheres google when you need him ... a yes*

*search jimmy hill*

Edit *ofcourse not being a football fan would make sence why i dont know himmy jill*

and when you say snakeface? do you mean Draenei?

Willow, the British includes the Scots - I think you mean the English. The event you mention was the Highland Clearances, which was a pretty appalling piece of work. I direct you to John Prebble's characteristically gripping account.

I think it's important to note that ordinary English people haven't been treated any better by the government down the years. Enclosure and the Portaloo Massacre (or do I mean Peterloo?) are two examples that spring to mind.

This from Wikipedia:

Many landowners became rich through the enclosure of the commons, while many ordinary folk had a centuries-old right taken away. Land enclosure has been condemned as a gigantic swindle on the part of large landowners, and Oliver Goldsmith wrote "The Deserted Village" in 1770 deploring rural depopulation. An anonymous protest poem from the 17th century summed up the anti-enclosure feeling:

They hang the man, and flog the woman,
That steals the goose from off the common;
But let the greater villain loose,
That steals the common from the goose.

It's not the English people who have done these things, but the British Government. I'll finish with a song. Join in if you know it!

The Internationale

Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don't cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all

Chorus:
So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The Internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race

Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
We'll live together or we'll die alone
In our world poisoned by exploitation
Those who have taken, now they must give
And end the vanity of nations
We've but one Earth on which to live

And so begins the final drama
In the streets and in the fields
We stand unbowed before their armour
We defy their guns and shields
When we fight, provoked by their aggression
Let us be inspired by like and love
For though they offer us concessions
Change will not come from above

And Wales... ah, Wales... where men are men and sheep are nervous...

Yes, of course I meant England.

Ritva you make me want to read more - I had a discussion recently with Jon about enclosure etc. and how it was in Finland. I think it was in answer to some quiz question. They don't, apparently, even have villages in Finland. But what I read at the time was a bland account of the process, not the politics behind it.

Was it really only England that was so ferocious in it's attempts to conquer?

As for the British government - long live the revolution. But if we overthrew them I suspect the up-coming new one would be the same.

How far have we strayed from Hajduk's posts...... sorry Haj.

Wales?

Do you mean that place that has Llanfairgwgyngllgogeryllyndrobellantisylligogogoch
in it

(or something that looks similar, as I did that without looking it up)

Anything or anyone would be nervous coming from somewhere with names like that.

No, I don't think the English have a monopoly on aggression.

The Irish, for example, had a long history of raiding and taking control of large chunks of the big Island, including totally taking over Caledonia - leading to it's modern name of Scotland. (The Irish in question were known as Scotii.)

But facts get in the way of a good story...

We dont want to conquer england. been there , done that. WE just no longer want to be part of it

Oh Actually I love Scotland and its people. Sorry to hear they all hate us

We really have hijacked your thread Haj. Sorry!!

Let me just offer the words of the great Scottish musician, Dick Gaughan:

"Let friendship and honour unite
And flourish on both sides the Tweed."